A recent paper has circulated among my friends that sets forth the viewpoint of a couple of people whose view is against the Trinitarianism perspective held by a growing number of us who love grace and teach others.
The paper lacks any serious academic honesty since all it does is to build a straw man and then proceed to tear that argument down. What it does would be like me doing this if I wanted to attack "the exchanged life perspective," which of course I do not:
"The following facts have come from my conversations with leading teachers who teach "the exchanged life.
1. Exchanged life teachers teach that we don't have to live by the rules of Scripture anymore, but are free to do whatever we want.
2. Exchanged life teachers teach that we can sin all we want and still be righteous in God's eyes because of Jesus.
3. Exchanged life teachers teach that we are under no obligation to read our Bibles, pray, go to church or anything else that we've been told Christians should do.
4. Exchanged life teachers teach that we don't have to try to do our best to live for God anymore.
5. Exchanged life teachers teach that all our sins have been forgiven, so we are free to commit any sin and know that it's already forgiven even before we do it. We don't even have to ask God to forgive it."
Are these really what exchanged life teachers share? Yes, of course. But to list these things without properly showing the context in which they are taught and without offering the Scriptural context for such "raw" statements would be intellectually misleading and lack the basic scholastic integrity normally assumed within a serious discussion and debate.
There are verses that clearly substantiate the validity of all five of the statements listed above as being the truth, when properly understood but if they are omitted and instead verses that seem to contradict the five points above are set forth, it would be easy to "prove" that exchanged life teachers are teaching false doctrine, maybe even heresy!
For instance:
"Work out your own salvation, with fear and trembling."
"Be steadfast, immovable, ALWAYS abounding in the work of the Lord."
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."
"Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed."
"Pray without ceasing."
"Forsake not the assembling of yourselves together..."
"IF we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us..."
The list of verses that could be wrongly presented to contradict the message of exchanged life teachers could go on and on and on, but what does that prove? If a paper like the one on Trinitarianism was written against the exchanged life viewpoint, using their same questionable and highly biased tactics they would cry "foul!" in a heartbeat, and rightly so.
The Trinitarian viewpoint is Scriptural and can be demonstrated to be a viable option to those who are willing to consider it with an open mind. But, as the article against Trinitarianism demonstrates and as the short example I've given above shows, any viewpoint can seem to be untrue if "evidence" that seems to refute it is the only information given and the evidence for why some serious Bible students believe that viewpoint is intentionally left out. That's especially true when we study to prove why we are right and somebody else is wrong instead of coming from a starting place of an open heart and mind with a willingness not to vilify but instead to show loving respect toward those with whom we have differences.
That's why people need to study for themselves and not take the word of any "expert." We have the Holy Spirit and He is The Teacher who will guide us into all truth. So don't fall into the trap of signing-off on something just because somebody else tells you it's right. Let the Holy Spirit and the Scripture be your guide.
Amen! And I mean that sincerely & heartily!
ReplyDeleteI thought that Trinitarian refers to the Trinity. Are those who chriticize exchanged life also do not believe in Trinity?
ReplyDeleteI though that Trinitarian refers to the Trinity. Do those critics deny Trinity along with grace?
ReplyDeleteNo, all believers believe in the Trinity but Trinitarianism is a branch of theological thought. You can find out much more about it in blogs I've written over the past few years. Also, www.gci.org is a good resource for understanding Trinitarian though.
DeleteWonderful post!
ReplyDelete"That's why people need to study for themselves and not take the word of any "expert." We have the Holy Spirit and He is The Teacher who will guide us into all truth. So don't fall into the trap of signing-off on something just because somebody else tells you it's right. Let the Holy Spirit and the Scripture be your guide."
ReplyDeleteThe legalist is a very narrow minded person and that is not to vilify. The legalist is only open to legalism. I sometimes look at a legalist and see they don't realise they are a legalist. Have you met a legalist that realizes they are a legalist? I am sincere with that Question.
ReplyDeleteNo, Johnny, you're right. I've not met a legalist who would identify himself that way. Having said that, my blog here is addressed to a group of friends who are not legalists. I'm simply encouraging them to consider that while they've seen "the dawn of grace," maybe there's a mid-day sun to yet be recognized.
ReplyDeleteThanks Steve! I hope you continue in the growth of the knowledge of grace.
DeleteHi steve, what do you think about thé perspective of the exchanged life ? I like your view about the Christian Life and the Lord lead me with your book and an exchanged Life perspective and i would love to have your thoughts about that. Thanks
ReplyDeleteHi steve, i would like to know your thoughts about the perspective of the exchanged Life ? Thé Lord leads me with your book and with this exchanged Life stuff. I would love to know more about where you are situated with that ?
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Kevin - I will teach the truth of the exchanged life as long as I live. God has used the message to revolutionize my life. As I've grown in grace since the Holy Spirit first revealed the message of the exchanged life to me in 1990, I've been thrilled to see that Jesus, as our Federal Head, has exchanged His life for the Adamic life of all humanity. All any of us need is to believe it. That's the gospel news that transforms lives and that's why I'm so excited about it! :)
DeleteNice ! I am from France and i will be in USA during all june and july for à road trip. I would like to know if you will give conference somewhere. I have been in touch with Frank Viola and Milt Rodriguez who will lead me to brothers and sisters in organic churches. One of my goal for the summer is to visit and see how They live here and see the expression of the body of Christ hère in America...
DeleteExcellent Steve! well put! The Bereans were more noble in that they went home and read to see if these things were true the Bible. They refused to sign-off just because it was an apostle or "leadership." Good blog! Dave Candel
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ReplyDelete'while they have seen the dawn of grace, maybe there is a mid-day sun to yet be recognized....' LOVE IT !
ReplyDeleteHey Steve! Love your stuff! Question about Trinitarian thought, is Trinitarianism essentially you have the trinity inside you, view all of the scriptures through the lens of Christ, Christ's work on the cross was universal, belief is the only thing that dictates the manifestation of heaven that you are experiencing or not, and in short that everyone has been saved, but not everyone is aware of it? I know that's kinda of a lot, but I was just curious. Maybe you could do a blog or direct me to an article or something that covers more in depth the trinitarian thought? Thanks Steve! Blessings to you and your ministry
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ReplyDeleteI've been a big fan of Grace Walk & followed your ministry for years.....but I am confused.
Doesn't Trinitarian teaching believe that all people have been saved but that some just have not "by faith" reckoned it as so.....but nonetheless we all will be in Heaven?
I Cor. 9:22 says ".....so that some might be saved", right?
Isn't this the same school of thought that we are hearing from Rob Bell?
If in the end "Love wins" & all are saved the question I would ask is did we even have a choice in the matter?
It sounds like "forced love"....not a choice or free will ?
What about John 3:36?
In Christ,
Les
Les - the answer depends on how you're defining the word, "saved." The tradition I grew up in saw being saved as having our sins forgiven so that we can now go to heaven. That was pretty much it. However, the word "saved" is a rich word that means much more than that. It refers to complete wholeness and is something that *has* happened, *is* happening and *is going to* happen.
ReplyDeleteIs it true that everybody's sins are forgiven? Yes. Just as God loves people whether they believe it or not, so has He forgiven them whether they believe it or not. The benefits of the cross are true for all humanity because of what Jesus has done, not because of what we do or don't do.
Must one believe the gospel to experience salvation? Yes. Hebrews 4:2 teaches that unless we believe, the gospel will be of no benefit to us. Nobody goes to heaven apart from faith in Christ.
I've recorded a whole series called "Dancing with Deity" that goes into great depth on this subject. You can check it out at www.gracewalkresources.com
To my knowledge, Rob Bell does not identify himself as one who holds a viewpoint coming from Trinitarianism.
Les - In reading your questions again, it seems that the underlying question may concern whether or not the Trinitarian viewpoint is the same as Universalism. It is not. They are two different understandings.
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