I used to believe that it increased the likelihood of having my prayers answered if I prayed constantly about the thing that concerned me. I thought the longer I stayed on my knees about it the better off the outcome would be. I don't believe that anymore. God doesn't need me to convince Him to act on my behalf. Jesus once told a story that illustrates the heart of the Father toward us:
Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they ought to pray and not to lose heart, saying, “In a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. There was a widow in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, ‘Give me legal protection from my opponent.’ For a while he was unwilling, but afterward he said to himself, ‘Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming she will wear me out.’” And the Lord said, “Hear what the unrighteous judge said; now, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them? I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly (Luke 18:1-8).
Isn’t Jesus telling us all that we need to keep praying and praying and praying without giving up on the Father answering our prayer? I think this view misses the point. Jesus is using an unrighteous man as His example in this story. Jesus stresses twice that this judge “did not fear God nor respect man.” He wasn’t a loving, caring man at all. He was indifferent to the needs of the supplicant and had to be worn down by persistent begging.
The truth Jesus wants us to see is that we are not to think of God that way! In this story Jesus was doing what He did so many other times, and that is to make an argument through contrast. We are missing the point if we think God is like that judge, unconcerned with people’s needs and only responding if we badger Him into it. No, Jesus’ point is, “If even an unrighteous, uncaring judge can be persuaded to act for you, how much more will the perfectly loving and good God respond to our heartfelt cries!” He isn’t telling us that we have to pray tremendous lengths of time to persuade our Father. What He is saying is that anytime and every time you pray, you can have confidence that He hears and will answer. All the time you can pray knowing that He loves you and isn’t holding out on you until you prove your sincerity by time and effort in prayer. God isn’t a Judge who needs to be persuaded. He is a Father is eager to answer you and to show you His love!
We reverse it in our minds sometimes, and believe that God doesn’t care. We think, “If we can just get enough people praying, and can log enough time in prayer, then maybe we can cause God to do something He really isn’t interested in doing. If He’s not now on our side, maybe we can win Him over through sheer effort and persistence.”
But the truth of grace is just the opposite. We don’t have to persuade a reluctant, unconcerned God. It’s the other way around. God is the seeker. He is the primary lover. God is always the initiator, so in reality the way it works is this: When the Lord gets ready to do something, He often moves the hearts of His people to pray. He moves us to pray, and we might be moved to invite others to join us in prayer. Then they can share in the process and become a part of the answer as well. When we become involved in prayer, God allows us to participate in what He’s doing in this world.
Back to the story Jesus told of the unrighteous judge: It’s important to note that in the story he told, Jesus had the supplicant appealing to a judge for help. He wanted us to see that our Father isn’t like the person depicted in this story. The judge was reluctant to answer, but our Father isn’t.
How we view God has everything to do with what expectations (faith) we have when we come to Him in prayer. I’ve already said that Jesus was using contrast to show the difference between our situation when we ask God for something and the situation of the widow in His story. There can be a difference in our expectation and approach when we come to Him because of the difference in the identities of the one the widow was beseeching and the One we are asking for help.
She was talking to a Judge. You aren’t. You are talking to your Father. That difference cannot be overstated. God isn’t a Judge who is sitting in heaven with a judicial mindset toward you that causes you to have to appeal to Him as you would ask a human judge to show you mercy and to grant your petition to the court.
Our God’s relationship to you isn’t judicial. It is relational. He is your Father and He delights in responding to our heartfelt requests. You can approach Him with the full knowledge that He doesn’t have to be persuaded to act in your best interest. His role in your life is based on His loving character. That fact gives you reason to know that you don’t have to beg Him. You don’t have to get enough people to convince Him the way somebody might show up in court with a petition signed by a multitude of people to convince the judge to rule in their behalf. Your Father is already on your side and is eager to bless you in every way. The story of the widow and the judge doesn't teach the lesson many of us have been told. In fact, it teaches just the opposite.
Ah, this is a question I have worked with and am working a lot with in my mind. I haven't heard anyone being as bold as you are about this. Thank you! You mirror my own thoughts about this, but it seems that a lot of people have testimonies that tells a different story.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think of all the testimonies where people have experienced the fruits of persistent prayers? I guess you have heard people talk about revivals starting with persistent prayer, too?
When any of us share a personal testimony, it is just that - a PERSONAL testimony - in other words, it is an expression of how we perceive something to be. Our perception may or may not accurately reflect what really happened. I've heard people give testimonies many times about how that when they did one thing (pray, tithe, witness, sacrifice is some other way), God did something in response to what they did. The question is, how do they know that what God did was in response to their action and not something He did simply because of His grace? Our actions don't provoke God's goodness. He is good - as "they say" - ALL THE TIME :)
ReplyDeleteHence, Jesus' admonition not to babble on like pagans.
ReplyDeleteYOU ARE RIGHT STEVE, OUR ACTIONS DO NOT PROVOKE GOD'S GOODNESS!
ReplyDeleteBUT THAT IS WHAT MANY, IN ARROGANT SELF PRIDE OR IGNORANCE AFFIRM!
Steve, I posted this on the facebook page, but thought you may rather respond on this site. It's up to you. You have mirrored much of my thoughts on this topic as well (of course, you have written it much more beautiful). How do you think we should respond when we pray about something and our prayer isn't immediately answered? (I'm talking about those times when we are praying something that is God's desire as well...and perhaps is just a matter of timing?) Would you say one should stop making their request over and over again and just believe with child-like trust that He will answer in His perfect timing. I think that is the tough part...what to do between the prayer and the answer. If someone is praying for God to stabilize their emotional mood swings and it isn't happening, despite continuously looking to God and trusting Him...that is tough. Does that make sense?
ReplyDeleteMatt- The point I'm making is that it isn't necessary to keep asking and asking and asking in order to persuade the Father. On the other hand, being human, we are often mentally consumed with things that burden us and there's certainly nothing wrong about talking to Him about it often when we are.In other words, it's perfectly okay to talk about what's on our minds but not necessary to "badger" Him into acting on our behalf.
ReplyDeleteI believe like you Steve that God doesn't respond to our actions so much as He gives grace as He desires it. He gives and takes away but is good all the time. When He closes a door I think He expects us to go through another door. We have a privelege in prayer for eternal fruit if we don't neglect to pray for others in need. God mostly changes us when we pray. Good blog on God's grace. Phil. 4:6-8 Dave Candel
ReplyDeleteHow good is God? I was having this conversation with Darin Hufford today, and listened to a podcast from Wayne Jacobsen. All in response to a simple request of Papa - "Can you tell me about prayer?" 40 years of doing it one way, with one mindset. Now, walking in freedom, needing understanding, Papa gives me everything I need to understand it better and relieve some anxiety in the matter. Thanks, Steve.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your answer, it gives me confidence to stand up for what I believe. can I ask you one more question in relation to this?
ReplyDeleteWhen people claim that "all big revivals" have started as a result of persistent prayer over time, and that without prayer there will be no revival, do you think they're sincerely wrong? (I know that you may say what I also say, that revival maybe is not something we should pray for after all....)
"Revival" isn't even mentioned in the NT. It is only discussed in the Old Testament. What is talked about it the New Testament is revelation. The Holy Spirit wants so open our the eyes of our hearts so that we will know the love of the Father. So I pray for revelation to come to people, not revival. Revival wears off and has to be repeated but revelation never wears off.
ReplyDeleteHaving said that, I'm all for the Holy Spirit stirring up our hearts with The Truth so that we're invigorated and motivated to walk in the Truth. We don't "buy a movement of God" by paying the price by praying though. There are times when He will move in us to pray so that we can join Him in what He's about to do. But it's us responding to Him, not Him responding to us. Our Father is the Initiator and we are the responders. Always.
Thanks for this blog Steve! One of the best i've ever read at your blogspot...I too had always found this Luke 18 parable disheartening rather than encouraging. But your words above are very encouraging! Thank you.
ReplyDeleteMaybe this will help me when thinking of my dad when he died 20 months ago....I prayed out of desperation - sort of thinking of God as someone who had to be persuaded - like a distant judge. But maybe He was there, and answered my prayers for dad's salvtion - but cos i couldn't perceive of Him as a Loving Father i therefore didn't pray with peace or confidence. And also just cos i didn't see the results doesn't mean God didn't answer the prayers. Maybe He want me to trust Him and not my 'trust in trust'...
Thank you so much for this blog, Steve. It puts to rest a long-standing "issue" I have had with God and prayer: I have often wondered (in anger and frustration) why a "loving Father" would require me to ask and ask and ask. You see, I am fortunate to have a loving earthly father, and I assure you, I've NEVER once had to "nag" him into helping me! So my question was always: "Then why do I have to continuously ask my heavenly Father for help? Is He not at least as loving as my own dad?"
ReplyDeleteFinally, in frustration I stopped asking repeatedly. Now, with your great explanation of this parable I can shed yet another lie, and with it, the suffocating guilt of not living up to that lie! I believe that's called "freedom," yes?
Excellent article Steve! really unveils the Heart of the Father...~
ReplyDeleteHow would you interpret Luke 11:5-8? [the famous 'importunity'/persevering prayer parable] ... or are we missing the point on that one as well?